From my contacts and enquiries into attitudes of magistrates I have the sense that many are becoming more inquisitorial in their approach to trials involving unrepresented defendants in order to ensure as much as they are able that justice is done and if that means the truth will out rather than the abler proponent of evidence then so be it.
As a matter of interest WikiIslam has the following information copied below. If these statistics are to be taken at face value how would individuals holding the reported opinions be appropriate for jury service whether in trials of co-religionists or others?
United Kingdom
More than 60 percent of British Muslims want Shari'ah law in the UK
The special poll [conducted by the Guardian/ICM
organisations] based on a survey of 500 British Muslims found that a
clear majority want Islamic law introduced into this country in civil
cases relating to their own community. Some 61 per cent wanted Islamic courts - operating on sharia principles – "so long as the penalties did not contravene British law"[46]
1 out of 3 British Muslims aged 16 to 24 believe that Muslim apostates should be executed.
October 2006
In the survey of 1,003 Muslims by the polling
company Populus through internet and telephone questionnaires, nearly
60% said they would prefer to live under British law, while 37% of 16 to
24-year-olds said they would prefer sharia law, against 17% of those
over 55. Eighty-six per cent said their religion was the most important
thing in their lives.
Nearly a third of 16 to 24-year-olds believed that those converting to another religion should be executed, while less than a fifth of those over 55 believed the same. The survey claimed that British authorities and some Muslim groups have exaggerated the problem of Islamophobia and fuelled a sense of victimhood among some Muslims: 84% said they believed they had been well treated in British society, though only 28% thought the authorities had gone over the top in trying not to offend Muslims.[47]
Nearly a third of 16 to 24-year-olds believed that those converting to another religion should be executed, while less than a fifth of those over 55 believed the same. The survey claimed that British authorities and some Muslim groups have exaggerated the problem of Islamophobia and fuelled a sense of victimhood among some Muslims: 84% said they believed they had been well treated in British society, though only 28% thought the authorities had gone over the top in trying not to offend Muslims.[47]
January 2007
Four out of 10 British Muslims want sharia law introduced into parts of the country, a survey reveals today.
The ICM opinion poll also indicates that a fifth have sympathy with
the "feelings and motives" of the suicide bombers who attacked London
last July 7, killing 52 people, although 99 per cent thought the bombers
were wrong to carry out the atrocity.
. . .
The most startling finding is the high level of support for applying sharia law in "predominantly Muslim" areas of Britain.
Forty per cent of the British Muslims surveyed said they backed introducing sharia in parts of Britain, while 41 per cent opposed it. Twenty per cent felt sympathy with the July 7 bombers' motives, and 75 per cent did not. One per cent felt the attacks were "right".
Nearly two thirds thought the video images shown last week of British troops beating Iraqi youths were symptomatic of a wider problem in Iraq. Half did not think the soldiers would be "appropriately punished".
Half of the 500 people surveyed said relations between white Britons and Muslims were getting worse. Only just over half thought the conviction of the cleric Abu Hamza for incitement to murder and race hatred was fair.[48]
. . .
The most startling finding is the high level of support for applying sharia law in "predominantly Muslim" areas of Britain.
Forty per cent of the British Muslims surveyed said they backed introducing sharia in parts of Britain, while 41 per cent opposed it. Twenty per cent felt sympathy with the July 7 bombers' motives, and 75 per cent did not. One per cent felt the attacks were "right".
Nearly two thirds thought the video images shown last week of British troops beating Iraqi youths were symptomatic of a wider problem in Iraq. Half did not think the soldiers would be "appropriately punished".
Half of the 500 people surveyed said relations between white Britons and Muslims were getting worse. Only just over half thought the conviction of the cleric Abu Hamza for incitement to murder and race hatred was fair.[48]
February 2006
At least 85 Islamic sharia courts are operating in Britain, a study claimed yesterday. The astonishing figure is 17 times higher than previously accepted
. . .
However, they operate behind doors that are closed to independent observers and their decisions are likely to be unfair to women and backed by intimidation, a report by independent think-tank Civitas said.[49]
32% of British Muslim students support killing for Islam; 40% want Shari'ah Law
. . .
However, they operate behind doors that are closed to independent observers and their decisions are likely to be unfair to women and backed by intimidation, a report by independent think-tank Civitas said.[49]
June 2009
According to a new survey done at 30 universities in
Britain, the young Muslim student body in that country is extremely
radicalized. The poll asked 600 Muslim students and 800 of their
non-Muslim peers about politically touchy subjects like killing in the
name of Islam and Sharia Law—and the results were like night and day
between the two demographics. While hardly anyone in the non-Muslim
sample accepted killing in the name of religion, basically one-third of
all Muslim students in Britain supported this.
. . . In an ironic twist, this survey and its shocking poll results were made available only through the Wikileaks leaking of Julian Assange. The poll was revealed as part of a secret, diplomatic cable that emerged from the US Embassy in London.
Other results in the pro-Islamist survey results are also troublesome. For instance, more than half of all British Muslim students insist on being represented by a political party that is Islam-based. The clear-cut, overwhelming theme in this poll data from this leaked cable relates to the fact that many Muslims even in so-called civilized countries like Britain still want to relapse to the Middle Ages (or earlier, even) by making Islam central in all aspects of their true-believing lives.[50]
. . . In an ironic twist, this survey and its shocking poll results were made available only through the Wikileaks leaking of Julian Assange. The poll was revealed as part of a secret, diplomatic cable that emerged from the US Embassy in London.
Other results in the pro-Islamist survey results are also troublesome. For instance, more than half of all British Muslim students insist on being represented by a political party that is Islam-based. The clear-cut, overwhelming theme in this poll data from this leaked cable relates to the fact that many Muslims even in so-called civilized countries like Britain still want to relapse to the Middle Ages (or earlier, even) by making Islam central in all aspects of their true-believing lives.[50]
December 2010
The recent speech by the Prime Minister shows that there is gradual realisation that the political getout that the underbelly of those who are committed to violence in the name of Islam is a tiny minority is not necessarily the case. Similar arguments can be made about members of or adherents to other religious or political denominations where controversy might arise eg Scientology, English Defence League to name just two. It is inconceivable that such cares have not entered the thinking
processes of those high up the ministerial tree in Petty France. It must only be a matter of time when jury selection becomes more inquisitorial and more highly selective if it is to retain its position as central to the legal process otherwise there is a risk that a fully inquisitorial system of continental procedures will be proposed.
I suspect many jurors think they are having the wool pulled over their eyes. Instead of forbidding jurors looking on the internet let the court do it openly (and honestly) and let prosecution and defence put up their explanation and reasons jurors should set such information aside. BTW, unless the juror was gobby how would anyone know (provably) they had looked anyway?
ReplyDeleteWe have Rabbinical courts for civil matters so why not Sharia courts for civil matters too - subject to their edicts being within UK law. Otherwise forbid all religious courts.
I think it is a given that the Ministry of Injustice already has a plan in a drawer somewhere to implement the Napoleonic approach. However we must always remember that Napoleon was a dictator as are adherents to his systems. George Orwell had great foresight - it is just taking a little longer than he thought.
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